copyright fee, even cereus x em satellite pay pandora fees, now they're asking for a change and lower rp but over 100 artists and the letter of protest to pandora. they don't want it to happen and so far that bill in congress that pandora has filed is going nowhere. tracy: no surprise. thank you very much. ashley: the president meeting with governors on the fiscal cliff, we spoke to the governor herbert earlier but as the clock ticks down for january 1st, is the president wasting time? the next guest thinks so. douglas holtz-eakin will be joining us next. tracy: look at today's winners and losers on nasdaq as we head to break. is netflix up top again, green mountain coffee doing okay as well and your losers, wind and resorts, we were just talking about those casinos. we will be right back. ashley: president obama digging deeper on its fiscal cliff stopped earlier today saying we won't cut our way out of this deficit and it starts with raising tax rates on the wealthy but my next guest says this rhetoric could drive us right over that cliff. joining me now is douglas holtz-eakin, former d